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We get it already- Kyle Busch can win in the minor leagues

By admin | April 22, 2011

By Richard Allen


Here’s some breaking news for you. Kyle Busch has won the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series event at the Nashville Super Speedway.

There is absolutely no doubt Busch is a talented driver. But we get it already. He can win in the minor leagues.

Friday’s win in the Bully Hill 200 was the Las Vegas driver’s 26th truck series victory out of only 89 career starts. Add to that, Busch has achieved 47 Nationwide wins in 209 starts in that division. And more, after leading 140 of the 150 truck race laps in Nashville, Busch surpassed the 20,000 laps lead mark in all three of NASCAR’s top divisions.

He has also scored twenty Sprint Cup Series wins.

All of those are impressive totals. However, the NASCAR CWTS and the Nationwide wins are, when you get right down to it, minor league wins.

I know the analogy has been used many times before but a Sprint Cup regular winning in either of the two lower divisions is tantamount to Alex Rodriguez going to the Arizona Fall League for minor league professionals and counting his homeruns there toward his career totals.

And let me add this- I am not just picking on Busch. His name goes at the top of the column because he won on Friday night. I have the same thoughts about Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick and other Sprint Cup stars who regularly compete in the lower classes.

At some point does there not come a time when a top tier driver using top tier equipment to win lower tier races becomes boring, even to the person involved?

Busch has stated that his goal is to win a total of 200 races in NASCAR’s top three divisions. Without question, that would be an impressive feat.

I assume the number 200 was chosen by Busch because of Richard Petty’s number of career wins at the highest level of the sport.

In the long run, Kyle Busch’s racing career will not be judged on the number of lower level wins he achieves. If he wants his name to be mentioned with the all time greats of the sport, it is Sprint Cup wins and championships that will assure that. Piling up truck series wins just confirms something we already know, he can win in the minor leagues.

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14 Responses to “We get it already- Kyle Busch can win in the minor leagues”

  1. SB Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 am

    The only redeeming factor about Harvick running in trucks and Nationwide is that he runs his own team and builds his own equipment…and has non Cup drivers running the equipment. If the media insists on adding all Kyle’s wins together to make him sound even more amazing, then they better start doing it for every Cup driver that ever ran in the lower series. It’s a phony ’stat’ and really doesn’t impress me.

  2. Nascarxtm Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 am

    I am finding it easier and easier to skip the truck races. Last night with Kyle Busch running and Darrell Waltrip in the booth, I chose sanity over racing and had a nice evening watching something I could enjoy. It’s been a long time since I watched a truck race, and I doubt if I’ll ever watch one again. The same is becoming true of the Nationwide series. It’s amazing that one driver and two Waltrips can do so much damage to the sport of racing.

  3. 3KillerBs Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 am

    Kyle Busch is also running his own team in the trucks. So much for that magical “top tier” equipment.

  4. Dan Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Wouldn’t know seeing I quit watching trucks and nationwide along tim ago thanks to Kyle , as long as he gets his ego boosted thats all that matters!

  5. Sue Rarick Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 8:47 am

    And Kyle builds and races his own trucks. And Kyle has more Sprint cup wins in fewer years.

  6. midasmicah Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Hey Rich. I used to love the truck series because it was pretty much a stand alone series. Now I treat it like I treat the former busch series. Due to the fact that the “regulars” have a slim chance of winning, I don’t watch it anymore. You tune into a “cup lite” series race and the top ten is dominated by bully boys from the cup series. Look at the attendence AND the TV viewership and it’s obvious what the problem is. It’s too bad nas$car keeps it’s head in the sand regarding this issue. The cup drivers may not be in the running for the title in the other two series’, but what they do is worse. They take the top money. That’s a killer in itself.

  7. sdmatt Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I think most people who aren’t rabid Kyle Busch fans are suffering from severe Kyle Busch over exposure.
    I know I’m more than tired of seein and hearin about him every time I turn on a Nascar race….its to the point I wish hed just go away.

  8. bradlewis Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I watch racing cause I like racing. Truck racing is awesome, not Kyle’s fault he is a good racer and winning races. Soundes to me like folks complain cause he is winning, nothing more.
    I don’t hear anybody complaining about Mark Martin, he currently holds the record for the most Nationwide wins, seems we have a double standard here. Records are records, the stats speak for themselves and like him or not, Kyle is a hell of a driver.

  9. Bob-a-Lou Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I agree with its equivalency of being a win in the minor leagues - impressive to a point but expected when dipping down into the minors. Heck, even Darrell Waltrip, when his CUP career was long on the downhill slide and he hadn’t won a race in years, would occasionally run an ARCA race and dominate. Competing against SOME Cup drivers in the minors isn’t the same as competing against Cup drivers in Cup. As for his Cup wins, yes impressive and yes, a win total some would kill for but at the five-to-six year point in his Cup career, Jeff Gordon (after zero wins his first year and two his second) had won one in four (25%) of all Cup races he ran - not all NASCAR races he entered; 25% of all Cup races. Kyle Busch is very good but has a long way to go to have Jeff Gordon CUP stats. (No, I’m not a Jeff Gordon fan, never have been, and even went through a period where I was sick of his winning seemingly all the time - BUT, I recognize his ability.)

  10. Terry Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Well, seems to me that it is time to tear down the Kyle Busch and JGR truck and Nationwide series cars. When is the last time that NA$CAR pulled a couple of cars back and went over them with a fine toothed comb? And when did we learn the results. As to Mr. Buschs, Mr. Edwards Mr. Happy and others’ driving in the Nationwide and or Camping World truck series - well in my opinion, nothing to be proud of. Come-on guys, stay in the deep end of the pool with the sharks.

  11. Canadian cleo Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    I USED to love watching the trucks more than any other series. Thanks to the cup boys domination, in particular Kyles, I no longer enjoy it and rarely watch a whole race. NASCAR needs to look at what has happened to the truck and NW series. It should not be a cherry picking series for the big boys. Most of those truck and NW teams would love to get their hands on some of that top money and the sponsorship that would come with a winning record. If the big boys want to play, let them field a truck or car and give a young person a chance at a good ride. I am sooo tired of hearing how many laps that Kyle has lead in trucks or NW……whooooohooooo… seems to me that he is all about stats in the lower classes.

  12. Phil Says:
    April 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Actually many of us did complain about Mark Martin cleaning up in the Busch Series years ago.

    We got sick of him doing it, just like Kyle these days.

    Most fans would like to see those series have their own set of names.

  13. Kevin Says:
    April 24th, 2011 at 5:26 am

    We look at the stats of many of the All-Time Greats but fail to remember that they were above average drivers among many below average drivers. Very few drivers can match his skill no matter what Series they race in. But one things is for sure everyone must step up their game. Still 20 cup wins is nothing to take lightly. Only 8 active drivers have more. And he is what, 25? I’m sure that by the time he is done racing his cup stats will stand on their own merit and people will say “Who is Rich Allen?”

  14. Joe W. Says:
    April 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    I will be honest. I dispise Kyle Busch and toyota. But the main reason he gas gotten on lots of peoples nerves is this 200 wins thing. You DO NOT hear them combining Edwards and Harvick’s win totals in all three series like Busch. It is a stupid thing to do. Nobody is ever going to get close to 200 Cup wins again. So this Kyle Bush/toyota party at Fox led by Waltrip had to come up with some fake story. It is that simple. Waltrip and Fox along with Busch and toyota trying to create a “News” item. Nothing more, nothing less.