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NASCAR apparently taking drastic steps to end 2×2 racing on plate tracks

By admin | December 14, 2011

By Richard Allen

The fans have spoken out against 2×2 racing on restrictor plate tracks and apparently NASCAR has heard.

The NASCAR on Fox television team held its pre-season production meetings on Tuesday and apparently received some inside information from the sanctioning body regarding rule changes for 2012.

According to Fox personality Larry McReynolds via Twitter, NASCAR is going to disallow the practice of drivers talking to each other on their in-car radios during the running of an event. Also, drivers will no longer be permitted to communicate with any member of another driver’s crew, including spotters. The practice of inter-team communication has proven vital to forming and maintaining successful tandems throughout the course of the races on the restrictor plate tracks of Daytona and Talladega.

And further, according to McReynolds NASCAR is going to make additional changes to the cooling systems of the cars which would serve to prevent them from running in the tight 2×2 groups seen throughout 2011 on the previously mentioned tracks.

In the most recent plate track race in Talladega the practice of drivers talking to each other became a subject of significant controversy after deals were made and broken during the final laps of that race.

The 2×2 form of racing delivered record numbers of lead changes and remarkably close finishes but fans increasingly voiced their displeasure with the style. Many commented on this site and others that the racing just looked ‘weird’ or ‘unnatural’. Further, it doomed half the field to a finish of no better than 2nd considering that one driver had to agree to be the pusher in the tandem.

Whether these changes will actually end the practice of 2×2 racing remains to be seen but NASCAR has definitely heard the fan outcry of last season.

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17 Responses to “NASCAR apparently taking drastic steps to end 2×2 racing on plate tracks”

  1. Kevin Says:
    December 14th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    WOO HOO!!!!

    Can’t stand the pairs ‘racing’.

  2. Jackie Says:
    December 14th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    I wonder if they went back to the areo package with the wicker bill across the roof and on the spoiler would that help break up the 2 car draft or make it easier for the 2 car draft

  3. Darren Says:
    December 14th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Sounds like a recipe for disaster! If the car can do it and go faster the drivers will do it. Cut the cooling more and you are just asking for blown engines and more cautions. Cut the communication and you have drivers in pairs running blind. Instead of “the big one” you will end up with 10 little ones and a pile of broken cars on the track. You may get a single car over the line because you may only have one car left.

    This is an aero phenomenon. Not an engine issue and not a driver issue. If you don’t want pairs of cars add something to disrupt the air on the car at plate tracks. These cooling and radio tweaks are stupid and dangerous.

  4. GreenEyedLilo Says:
    December 14th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    I see absolutely no benefit to keeping drivers from communicating with each other or members of each others’ teams, and a whole lot of potential danger. Leave it to Brian France to “correct” an unpopular change with a dangerous one. I really hope neither of these are implemented. I don’t mind the pairs racing.

  5. Bill B Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 7:11 am

    I hate the 2×2 racing. If that’s the way the Daytona 500 goes I will not be watching the other 3 restrictor plate races. I agree with Darren though, as long as they can go faster in a two car tandem, they will do it regardless of what rules are put in place.

  6. Sue Rarick Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Jackie and Darren are absolutely right when they say the problem is an aero problem.

    Remove the wickers used to channel air to the spoiler and reduce the spoiler height and you’ve reduced downforce over the top of the car.

    Remove the side skirts and either raise the splitter/front spoiler or reduce it’s width to the inside of the tires and you’ve increased the pressure going under the car.

    With the pressure difference between the top and bottom of the car reduced the car becomes less aero dependent.

    Except for the splitter/front spoiler those modifications could be done on the present car very easily. It’s a matter of just removing a few aero add ons.

    The cars would be slower mainly because the drivers would have to lift off the throttle where today they run flat out. I doubt you could even run Talladega flat out. There is an added plus that because the cars are less aero dependent passing becomes easier. Adding more excitement to the races. And it brings back a premium drivers ability to drive.

  7. Richard Allen Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    The CoT is crap but NASCAR is never going to admit that and go away from it because they make too much money from. It CoT that is certified or re-certified comes with a pretty stiff fee that has to be paid to NASCAR.

    The car is the primary reason for all the aero issues in the sport today.

    All we will ever get from now on are these silly little adjustments to the rules to provide quick fixes to major problems.

  8. Russ Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    The whole issue obviously is aero. When drivers and crew talk about having “downforce cars” and “superspeedway”cars, you know that the problem is with the rules. In other words, the rules don’t change from track to track, (supposedly) and neither should the bodies be able to. As a side note that’s where an awful lot of money is spent.

    Now of course the teams will call anything they do a “safety” issue. However that’s just an excuse. Any engineer or mechanic is always looking for perfection, regardless of common sense. Hold the teams to one configuration, regardless of the track and a lot of the problems, not just the 2×2 would be cured.

  9. Bob Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Verticle bars attached to the front bumper and verticle bars attached to the rear bumper. They would only need to be about 4″ long and spaced about 6″ apart, could be made out of heavy plastic or molded into the front and rear fiberglass. Easy way to force them to seperate in the corners and prevent them from “peeking out” for cooling down the straight. Only use this configeration at the plate tracks.

  10. Richard Allen Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    As has been pointed out above, there is a real possibility of a disaster here. This will lead to a lot of one handed driving and hand signaling.

  11. Dan Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Complain all you want but at least nascar is trying to end this crap!

  12. Glen H. Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    If they reduce cooling to keep cars from running in tandem, I wonder how they’re going to keep the cars cool running in a pack?

    Should be interesting seeing everyone pulling out of line to cool down.

  13. Ricky Whittenburg Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    The simplest solution is for NASCAR to just tell the teams, “You CANNOT push, period!” Say, if you are hooked to a guy for more than a bump then you are black flagged. They made the yellow line “out of bounds” so why not just say don’t push? That’s the easiest solution to this 2×2 problem.

  14. mackyjay Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    use the chicane in the backstretch like the sports cars

  15. Marybeth Says:
    December 15th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Nascar had a test at Daytona in Nov. to try find a way to break up the tandems, but only 8 drivers turned up & not enough to really test what they were trying. I think that might be why they are including so many in the Shoot-out, to try methods of breaking them up before the 500.

  16. Offkilter Says:
    December 17th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Jackie#2 post nailed what ive been saying for years. Open the plates back up and put the strip across the roof to punch that big hole in the air that allows single car to suck up in the draft really quick to pull out and pass. It worked great years ago… Dont remember why nascar got away from it. Prolly had something to do with that ingenious plan requiring the stupid deck lid wing.

  17. Offkilter Says:
    December 17th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    And its funny how nascar seems to go with expensive, engineering heavy type changes instead of simple cheaper ones. Im sure radiator and expansion tank size changes along with grill opening changes will cost several grand per car when you figure in the engineering aspects, man-hours, and parts.