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Fans Weigh In With Their Thoughts on Phoenix Race

By admin | March 4, 2013

 Racing at the Phoenix International Speedway was scored higher by fans than last week’s Daytona 500

By Richard Allen

The Subway Fresh Fit 500 at the Phoenix International Speedway was billed as the “real” debut for the so called Gen-6 Sprint Cup car. The event certainly featured some interesting moments. Pit strategy, intriguing storylines among the big stars, a green/white/checkered finish and a popular race winner who broke a long losing streak made for some points of interest. However, there were also long stretches of parading with little passing and a finish that came down to track position and fuel mileage may have taken away from the interest level for some.

Like last week’s Daytona 500, I asked my Twitter and Facebook followers to grade what they saw. And compared to ‘The Great American Race’, the Phoenix event received better overall scores.

Daytona received only one ‘A’ and a disappointing total of 13 grades of ‘F’. Phoenix got more A’s and no F’s.

Of the 54 respondents, a total of six fans scored the race as an ‘A’ with another 21 giving the race a ‘B’. While there were more people to participate in the Daytona poll, the percentage of above average marks for Phoenix compares very favorably against the sport’s biggest race.

Twenty-two fans rated the race as average by giving it a grade of ‘C’. While such a high percentage of C’s may sound bad, it is encouraging that this wasn’t the high end of the scale overall. Daytona received so many D’s and F’s while getting so few A’s and B’s, the C’s came off sounding like good grades for that race.

There were five grades of ‘D’ and as stated before, no F’s.

One theme that tended to ring through from a number of fans was that the green/white/checkered finish and the drama of the fuel mileage saved the overall race. Had it not been for those factors, the race would have received a lower score.

So in the end, the Subway Fresh Fit 500 posted much better overall marks from fans than did the Daytona 500. While the sample size described here for both races is very small, it is a positive sign for NASCAR that fans thought more of this race than of the Daytona 500. After all, it was the non-restrictor plate tracks the the new Gen-6 car was created to improve.

Here are some sample comments from those who responded to my poll:

Richard Ford on Facebook said, “B+ because of the final green white checker.”

Rick Brooks on Facebook declared, “Snake race most of the day. Late race caution the only real excitement. C-”

@NBabyak on Twitter said, “D … tired f only enjoying the finish… getting sad”

@PreGameEngnr opined, “D-. Exact same kind of racing we’ve seen for five years. Track position is most important. Four tires slower than 2? #smh”

@KellyFritts said, “I grade it a C cuz I noticed there really isn’t a lot of passing with the new cars. Another fuel mileage race is not good.”

@corvettebuster added, “I would rate it a b also hoping things will get better in coming weeks.”

@dkjr12 wondered, “B+, I have no idea why people are being so harsh on this car. would of been an A had the last 40 laps not been single file”

@Leslie88_48 said, “I give it a A-. There was passing and the finish was AWESOME!!”

@scootershoney saw the race in person, “I was at the track & give it a B.”

@jeremybhaley advised, “you have to ask that question before the final restart. Otherwise you get win/loss reaction.”

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14 Responses to “Fans Weigh In With Their Thoughts on Phoenix Race”

  1. Bill B Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 7:01 am

    I’d give it a grade of “C”. Average Phoenix race. I personally am not a fan of the GWC because it gives too much relevance to the last two laps at the expense of the other 300+ laps. I just spent 3 hours watching a race. Watching guys try to work their way to the front. Then, in the last two laps, it’s a crapshoot as to where they finish.

    I also think the television coverage hurts the appraisal of the race. There was some passing going on but if it wasn’t the top 3 or 4 cars, we didn’t get to see it. We have to rely on the scroll to tell who is going forward and who is going backward.

    I also agree that something is wrong when 4 tires don’t make a bigger difference. Still seems the same, if you get out front you can drive away. Track position is more important than anything else.

  2. Ken Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    The race must have been better than normal because I only fell asleep twice. I probably would have slept through 90% of it if my phone had not rung. Who need sleeping pills when you can turn on a NASCAR race for free?

  3. GinaV24 Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    I give it a grade of C as well. IMO, Phoenix is not all that interesting. NASCAR has a bad habit of overpromising and underdelivering. They’d have been better off to say up front that this car is a work in progress rather than horns and trumpets saying “this is it! the FIX to all the problems”. Only to have things be exactly the same on the track as before — track position, track postion, track postion. Bored, bored, bored!

    I also am not a fan of the GWC, I feel that it “cheats” the ending by manufacturing excitement when it may not be warranted. I’ve seen a lot of wrecks result from the GWC from banzai stupid moves.

    I agree with Bill on this - tv hurts the racing since they like to focus on a) whoever is paying them to focus on them or b) whoever their favorites are. if there is racing, show it to the fans at home, otherwise, there really isn’t much reason for me to waste 4 hrs of my life.

  4. Eddy Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I really really want to like the new car , but nascar has dicked around so much with the cars and the format so much that it is hard to watch for more than ten minutes at a time. I was a season ticket holder at Bristol for over ten yrs and loved it inspite of yearly cost increases . Since they messed up the track and cars it just wasnt fun anymore.
    I have been watching V8 supercars and the big sportscar races to get some exciting competition. Those V8 guys are awesome..

  5. Scott Beasley Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    I gave the race s “D”, boring for very long stretches. The run to the finish to see who would make it on gas, though I think FOX made that out to be closer than it really was, is the only thing keeping if from an “F”.

    The big concern to me, and of course the FOX CLOWNS did not really touch much on it, is that we are still seeing two tires be better than 4 tires. It seems for the last few years these tires to not wear. We still see tires blow, which to me seems to be more or an issue of set up than wear. Growing up watching races I always remember new tires were better than old tires. This has not been the case for about 5 or 6 yrs, though again the FOX ClOWNS try and say it is. The fact that tires are not wearing, decreasing grip over a run, compared to new tires is to me the big concern. Until you have tires giving up creating speed differences in the cars, the racing will continue to suck!

  6. John Cooke Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Listening to the drivers complain about losing down force when they get close to another car makes me wonder if removing the front splitter would solve the problem. Looking at pictures from the past clearly shows cars front ends about 6 inches off the ground. Wouldn’t this allow air to go under the car and get on the front of the following car?

  7. steven Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Any kind of short track racing is great as long as gas milage is not involved. Grade “A”.

  8. midasmicah Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    While it wasn’t a great race, the Phoenix race wasn’t that bad. The way races are broadcast makes them look boring. If your driver isn’t on DW and his tame apes’ A list, you’re not going to see much of him. I actually gave this race a c+ to B-rating. Give the new car a few races before you call it a failure. My worry is that the Daytona Dorks will make another knee-jerk reaction and make things look worse then they actually are.

  9. Ken (from Canada) Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    I rated Sunday’s race an A-, if for no other reason that it was won by one of my favorite drivers (and I’m not afraid to admit to that, despite being banned from a couple of sites because I am his fan!), and not by someone from Hendrick Motorsports. It was good to see Mr. 5-time get beat at his own game. I wonder if Jimmie would like some nice Havarti or Monterey Jack to go with the whining he did on Sunday!

  10. Tony Geinzer Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    I want to see,all joking aside, better racing and less “Field Fillers” as the Start and Park 500 has been permenantly cancelled.

  11. ron hill Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    I rated it a c and that because i pull for Carl .The tires are to hard …..listen to the drivers…….and i belive the passing returns with softer tires……..hey lets try it and compare

  12. jo-jr Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    boring race….feel asleep, twice..read paper! finally turned the race off. they only show a chosen few, and sick to death of d.w., mikey and larry! i just mute when they start! throw rusty in there to! been going to the races since back in the 6o’s and sat on the banks, at bristol! stopped going two years ago. nascar is dying fast!!!

  13. Steve Says:
    March 6th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    From what I have read this week, if you were at the race, the race was pretty good. If you watched it at home on tv, the race wasn’t very good because they only showed their chosen ones, therefore the low grades.

    You would think Fox would do what they can to show the best race possible, instead of focusing on a chosen few. Wouldn’t more people watch if it was exciting on TV? Sounds like a simple question but wonder if the people at FOX have ever asked it. Right now I think more and more people are looking for other things to do on Sunday because the telecasts are so poor.

    I think the ratings are high now for 2 reasons. 1.) the big crash at Daytona brought in more casual fans for the 500 and there was also a big snow storm on the East Coast that Sunday as well and 2.) People that lost interest are tuning back in to see how this new car races. My guess is the ratings will go as the car does. If the car races poorly, ratings will eventually suffer. If they improve the racing, they may get some fans back.

  14. Richard manning Says:
    March 8th, 2013 at 1:13 am

    Boys have at it
    Speak your mind =
    Damn good racing.

    NASCAR grow up

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